Return-Path: Received: from server.64xmedia.com by server.64xmedia.com with LMTP id w2ZuAE469WLeRAAAdUq3JA (envelope-from ); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:20:14 -0400 Return-path: Envelope-to: directory@aicenergycorp.com, jwilson@aicenergycorp.com, rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com Delivery-date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:20:14 -0400 Received: from mta-132b.oxsus-vadesecure.net ([135.148.117.231]:58121 helo=nmtao102.oxsus-vadesecure.net) by server.64xmedia.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.95) (envelope-from ) id 1oMBqv-0004Yb-LI; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:20:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=LEhziwMaAB1oaXLYKq0SowC5S8/hR9E5OneN5N K88zE=; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=webcom.xion.oxcs.net; h=from:reply-to: subject:date:to:cc:resent-date:resent-from:resent-to:resent-cc: in-reply-to:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; q=dns/txt; s=mail1; t=1660238328; x=1660843128; b=C+qLZPxMUuYU99OfFq6tMdi9sBtxkd0wz/AuF8ddh ZzQkRaFGRkurb6atPTlVV5xXo9rftcQPHA3ieFWvHwoBQ+593WedHb0W1GGgnXBJYPk0UF9 iXQ9nr6fUer9MRlWPoWG/YXfCtmb+SvhyjurYC10bkPW23u/QFpbggnyL1dDq7AhyTvmOFM 84YL8gTkoyPD0oysfcQ4kV9Ah1Ix8dpfKjEMcwpnBPeBuMuTASAfAzcbd5nERQqO387k18e FeNB2whKCeYYT1rjqCGd/8ORdLCpLhB+NAeDg/3I7P84M1FcLN6TAS6kQv9mzzvpR8/uxOI vcy1jiDo1FjZvJESw== Received: from proxy-10.proxy.cloudus.ewr.xion.oxcs.net ([24.230.175.2]) by smtp.oxsus-vadesecure.net ESMTP oxsus1nmtao02p with ngmta id a4122e04-170a59f64e0e05fb; Thu, 11 Aug 2022 17:18:48 +0000 From: To: "'rgrimes'" , "'Kathleen Spilman, P.E.'" , , , "'John Melk'" Cc: "'Riedy, Mark'" , "'Phil Stack @Keitu'" References: <004401d8acf9$14862740$3d9275c0$@keitu.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy Corp - REVISED Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 12:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: <005201d8ada6$d8c53990$8a4facb0$@keitu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01D8AD7C.EFF01BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: Aditpa2HfNR9dSoMSWuASWIVxkWl5gAAKhjg Content-Language: en-us Authentication-Results: oxsus-vadesecure.net; auth=pass smtp.auth=68@428034 smtp.mailfrom=kkeller@keitu.com; X-Spam-Status: No, score= X-Spam-Score: X-Spam-Bar: X-Ham-Report: X-Spam-Flag: NO This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01D8AD7C.EFF01BF0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0054_01D8AD7C.EFF04300" ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01D8AD7C.EFF04300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The CI is based on neat SAF (renewable jet). =20 =20 Kris =20 Kristopher Keller, P.E. Senior Project Engineer ND & MT =20 =20 =20 1403 27th St. NW; PO Box 98 Mandan, ND 58554 (701) 667-1808 x116 (701) 260-9476 Mobile =20 =20 =20 From: rgrimes =20 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 12:13 PM To: Kathleen Spilman, P.E. ; = jwilson@aicenergycorp.com; directory@aicenergycorp.com; 'John Melk' = Cc: 'Riedy, Mark' ; Kris Keller @Keitu = ; Phil Stack @Keitu Subject: RE: Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy Corp - REVISED =20 Q: Is our current calculation based on blended SAF? Would the score be = lower (but obviously fewer barrels) if it was based on just renewable = jet?=20 =20 - Roger =20 =20 =20 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone =20 =20 -------- Original message -------- From: "Kathleen Spilman, P.E." >=20 Date: 8/10/22 1:36 PM (GMT-07:00)=20 To: jwilson@aicenergycorp.com , = directory@aicenergycorp.com , 'John = Melk' >=20 Cc: "Roger Grimes @AIC" >, "'Riedy, Mark'" = >, = "Kris Keller @Keitu" >, = "Phil Stack @Keitu" >=20 Subject: RE: Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy Corp - REVISED=20 =20 I modified my note below to be a bit clearer in its explanation, = especially for those not on todays video conference with Delta = Airline=E2=80=99s representatives. Kathye =20 From: Kathleen Spilman, P.E. >=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 3:30 PM To: 'jwilson@aicenergycorp.com' >; 'directory@aicenergycorp.com' = >; = 'John Melk' > Cc: Roger Grimes @AIC >; 'Riedy, Mark' = >; = Kris Keller @Keitu >; Phil = Stack @Keitu > Subject: Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy Corp =20 As I mentioned during the meeting with Delta =E2=80=93 and as outlined = in the documents we submitted - the CI scores we have used is based on = the California CARB method to assure we track eligibility for LCFS tax = credits. We have always noted that on our slide. But seems not everyone = has picked up on that or maybe were unaware that multiple ways to = calculate Carbon Intensity Index exist.=20 =20 For John=E2=80=99s and Snow=E2=80=99s benefit =E2=80=93 the Delta reps = were a bit disappointed that we did not have a better CI score. They = are looking for a 65% reduction and RSB certified feedstock. It was my = understanding that Delta reps (and maybe the other airlines as well) = seem to be using the Argonne National Laboratories (ANL) method. This = is the method cited in the most recent bill passed 51-50 in the US = Senate and expected to be passed by the House and signed by President = Biden will give us a much lower CI score. The CARB model CI is the = toughest. Phil guesses it could be as much as 20 numbers lower using = the ANL method rather than the CARB method. =20 =20 We have not made any effort to quantify the CI from ANL method to this = point in time for this project. =20 Phil is busy with another assignment for AIC that needs to be finished = ASAP, but could get on that as soon as Friday of this week. His SWAG = guess is that a ANL CI could easily come in 20 numbers lower than what = we have been using in information to date. And it would likely take him = 5-6 days of compiling information and developing a tool to track CI = using the ANL method. =20 Let me know if you what him to work on that next. =20 Kathleen M. Spilman, P.E. (ND & MT) Managing Director 1403 27th St NW PO Box 98 Mandan ND 58554 (701) 667-1800=20 (701) 667-1808 x100 Direct (701) 527-0277 Mobile = www.keitu.com =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0054_01D8AD7C.EFF04300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The CI is based on neat SAF = (renewable jet).=C2=A0

 

Kris

 

Kristopher Keller, = P.E.

Senior Project = Engineer

ND & = MT

 

 

3D"KECI<= /p>

 

1403 = 27th St. NW; PO Box 98
Mandan, ND 58554

(701)= 667-1808 x116

(701)= 260-9476 Mobile

=  

=  

 

From: rgrimes = <rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, = 2022 12:13 PM
To: Kathleen Spilman, P.E. = <kspilman@keitu.com>; jwilson@aicenergycorp.com; = directory@aicenergycorp.com; 'John Melk' = <jmelk06@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'Riedy, Mark' = <MRiedy@kilpatricktownsend.com>; Kris Keller @Keitu = <kkeller@keitu.com>; Phil Stack @Keitu = <pstack@keitu.com>
Subject: RE: Carbon Index Score for = AIC Energy Corp - REVISED

 

Q: Is = our current calculation based on blended SAF?  Would the score be = lower (but obviously fewer barrels) if it was based on just renewable = jet? 

 

- = Roger

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung = Galaxy smartphone

 

 

-------- Original message = --------

From: "Kathleen Spilman, P.E." <kspilman@keitu.com> =

Date: 8/10/22 1:36 PM (GMT-07:00) =

Cc: "Roger Grimes @AIC" <rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com&g= t;, "'Riedy, Mark'" <MRiedy@kilpatricktownsend.c= om>, "Kris Keller @Keitu" <kkeller@keitu.com>, "Phil = Stack @Keitu" <pstack@keitu.com> =

Subject: RE: Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy = Corp - REVISED

 

I modified = my note below to be a bit clearer in its explanation, especially for = those not on todays video conference with Delta Airline=E2=80=99s = representatives.  Kathye

 <= /o:p>

From:= Kathleen Spilman, P.E. <kspilman@keitu.com> =
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 3:30 PM
To: = 'jwilson@aicenergycorp.com' <jwilson@aicenergycorp.com&g= t;; 'directory@aicenergycorp.com' <directory@aicenergycorp.com>; 'John Melk' <jmelk06@yahoo.com>
Cc:= Roger Grimes @AIC <rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com&g= t;; 'Riedy, Mark' <MRiedy@kilpatricktownsend.c= om>; Kris Keller @Keitu <kkeller@keitu.com>; Phil Stack = @Keitu <pstack@keitu.com>
Subject:<= /b> Carbon Index Score for AIC Energy Corp

 <= /o:p>

As I = mentioned during the meeting with Delta =E2=80=93 and as outlined in the = documents we submitted - the CI scores we have used is based on the = California CARB method to assure we track eligibility for LCFS tax = credits.  We have always noted that on our slide. But seems not = everyone has picked up on that or maybe were unaware that multiple ways = to calculate Carbon Intensity Index exist.

 <= /o:p>

For = John=E2=80=99s and Snow=E2=80=99s benefit =E2=80=93 the Delta reps were = a bit disappointed that we did not have a better CI score.  They = are looking for a 65% reduction and RSB certified feedstock.  It = was my understanding that Delta reps (and maybe the other airlines as = well) seem to be using the Argonne National Laboratories (ANL) = method.  This is the method cited in the most recent bill passed = 51-50 in the US Senate and expected to be passed by the House and signed = by President Biden will give us a much lower CI score.  The CARB = model CI is the toughest.  Phil guesses it could be as much as 20 = numbers lower using the ANL method rather than the CARB method.  =

 <= /o:p>

We have not = made any effort to quantify the CI from ANL method to this point in time = for this project.

 <= /o:p>

Phil is = busy with another assignment for AIC that needs to be finished ASAP, but = could get on that as soon as Friday of this week.  His SWAG guess = is that a ANL CI could easily come in 20 numbers lower than what we have = been using in information to date.  And it would likely take him = 5-6 days of compiling information and developing a tool to track CI = using the ANL method.

 <= /o:p>

Let me know = if you what him to work on that next.

 <= /o:p>

Kathleen M. = Spilman, P.E. (ND & = MT)

Managing = Director

1403 27th St = NW

PO Box 98

Mandan ND = 58554

(701) = 667-1800 

(701) 667-1808 x100 = Direct

(701) 527-0277 = Mobile

= www.keitu.com=

 <= /o:p>

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