Return-Path: Received: from server.64xmedia.com by server.64xmedia.com with LMTP id MGq3CCF++GCHNgAAdUq3JA (envelope-from ); Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:05:53 -0400 Return-path: Envelope-to: bsheets@aicenergycorp.com, jwilson@aicenergycorp.com, directory@aicenergycorp.com Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:05:53 -0400 Received: from 115.sub-174-246-22.myvzw.com ([174.246.22.115]:30953 helo=[IPv6:::ffff:192.168.145.222]) by server.64xmedia.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1m6ITX-0003dI-Nk; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:05:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathleen Spilman Cc: "'Kris Keller, P.E.'" , brandon , "jwilson@aicenergycorp.com" , "directory@aicenergycorp.com" From: Roger Grimes Subject: RE: PE License ? Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 13:05:52 -0700 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <004101d77e58$2ff13e00$8fd3ba00$@keitu.com> References: <005001d77d95$a2cb4ab0$e861e010$@keitu.com> <202107211650.16LGoflO003326@atl4mhib16.registeredsite.com> <004101d77e58$2ff13e00$8fd3ba00$@keitu.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_5B926870-748A-4134-8AAB-DC9125134F45_" --_5B926870-748A-4134-8AAB-DC9125134F45_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3A261EC9-4943-4731-8FEB-9EACA939CEBB_" --_3A261EC9-4943-4731-8FEB-9EACA939CEBB_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I contacted both the ND PELS Board and the Williams County Planning and Zon= ing and I think we have a way ahead for the plan review and building permit= submittals we will do, and how the State PE and Architectural licensure wi= ll work. Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention. - Roger =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0DRoger W. Grimes, PE Lead Engineer =C2=A0 Phone: 702.685.1118=C2=A0=20 Direct:=C2=A0 509.309.5545 Email: rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com =C2=A0 2840 S. Jones Blvd. Ste 1 Las Vegas, NV 89146 =C2=A0 www.aicenergycorp.com=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=0D From: Kathleen Spilman Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:46 AM To: 'Roger Grimes' Cc: 'Kris Keller, P.E.'; jwilson@aicenergycorp.com Subject: RE: PE License ? If you are a =E2=80=9Ccontract=E2=80=9D employee with AIC, then you should = jump through the hoops and get a PE license from North Dakota.=C2=A0 But, f= or your consideration=E2=80=A6 I am not aware that any permit application =E2=80=93 other than the county= =E2=80=99s stormwater management plan =E2=80=93 requires a professional eng= ineer=E2=80=99s stamp.=C2=A0 And Interstate Engineering or RDS will be subm= itting that plan for the site. The State=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CPermit to Construct=E2=80=9D will be issued by= the ND Department of Environmental Quality as the Air Emission Permit.=C2= =A0 That application does not need to be stamped.=C2=A0 Even if it did, it = is being prepared by Wenck/Stantec and their staff is licensed in North Dak= ota. The only remaining Williams County permit is the stormwater management plan= /permit. And under my ethics obligation as a PE licensed by North Dakota from one PE= to another =E2=80=93 I am not sure what you mean by getting licensed to = =E2=80=9Cbe the overarching design professional=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 but be c= areful what you plan or actually stamp. =C2=A0The ND PE&LS Board does not t= ake kindly on =E2=80=9Cplan stamping=E2=80=9D by ND licensed engineers to a= void the actual engineers and engineering firms getting a license or work d= one by unlicensed sales engineers or worse yet, non-design professionals.= =C2=A0 They have thrown the book at some engineers caught doing that when t= he oil boom was in full swing and things were getting built as fast as poss= ible. Kathye From: Roger Grimes =20 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:51 AM To: Kathleen Spilman Cc: 'Kris Keller, P.E.' ; jwilson@aicenergycorp.com Subject: RE: PE License ? Kathye: I think I will just apply for my ND license by comity so I can be the overa= rching design professional for construction permit submittals.=C2=A0 I will= check with Williams County to make sure they are OK with that=E2=80=A6 - Roger =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0DRoger W. Grimes, PE Lead Engineer =C2=A0 Phone: 702.685.1118=C2=A0=20 Direct:=C2=A0 509.309.5545 Email: rgrimes@aicenergycorp.com =C2=A0 2840 S. Jones Blvd. Ste 1 Las Vegas, NV 89146 =C2=A0 www.aicenergycorp.com=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=0D From: Kathleen Spilman Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:33 AM To: Roger Grimes @AIC Cc: 'Kris Keller, P.E.' Subject: PE License ? I received our professional E&O insurance policy yesterday and it reminds m= e about the provision about working only with licensed professionals. Are you working as a AIC Energy Corp employee, or technically are you a con= tractor?=C2=A0 If you are actually a AIC Energy Corp employee, then of cour= se North Dakota offers an =E2=80=9Cindustry=E2=80=9D exemption for engineer= s i.e. only working for their employers. While Richard Design Services is licensed in North Dakota, we can=E2=80=99t= see that Haldor-Topsoe is, nor Alfa-Laval.=C2=A0 Since they are doing some= of the design work relating to their equipment, and not just selling us eq= uipment, they really should be.=C2=A0 I am way more concerned about HT and = AL than you. Kathleen M. Spilman, P.E. Project Engineer =E2=80=93 SAFuels X (Trenton) 1403 27th St NW PO Box 98 Mandan ND 58554 (701) 667-1800=C2=A0 (701) 667-1808 x100 Direct (701) 527-0277 Mobile www.keitu.com --_3A261EC9-4943-4731-8FEB-9EACA939CEBB_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I con= tacted both the ND PELS Board and the Williams County Planning and Zoning a= nd I think we have a way ahead for the plan review and building permit subm= ittals we will do, and how the State PE and Architectural licensure will wo= rk.=C2=A0 Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.=C2=A0 - Roger<= /p>

 

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From: Kathleen Spilman
Sent: Wednesday, Jul= y 21, 2021 10:46 AM
To: 'Roger Grimes'
Cc: '= Kris Keller, P.E.'; jwilso= n@aicenergycorp.com
Subject: RE: PE License ?

 

If you are a =E2= =80=9Ccontract=E2=80=9D employee with AIC, then you should jump through the= hoops and get a PE license from North Dakota.  But, for your consider= ation=E2=80=A6

 

I am not aware that any permit application =E2=80=93 other= than the county=E2=80=99s stormwater management plan =E2=80=93 requires a = professional engineer=E2=80=99s stamp.  And Interstate Engineering or = RDS will be submitting that plan for the site.

 

The State=E2=80=99s =E2=80= =9CPermit to Construct=E2=80=9D will be issued by the ND Department of Envi= ronmental Quality as the Air Emission Permit.  That application does n= ot need to be stamped.  Even if it did, it is being prepared by Wenck/= Stantec and their staff is licensed in North Dakota.

 

The only remaining W= illiams County permit is the stormwater management plan/permit.<= /p>

 

And under= my ethics obligation as a PE licensed by North Dakota from one PE to anoth= er =E2=80=93 I am not sure what you mean by getting licensed to =E2=80=9Cbe= the overarching design professional=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 but be careful what= you plan or actually stamp.  The ND PE&LS Board does not take kin= dly on =E2=80=9Cplan stamping=E2=80=9D by ND licensed engineers to avoid th= e actual engineers and engineering firms getting a license or work done by = unlicensed sales engineers or worse yet, non-design professionals.  Th= ey have thrown the book at some engineers caught doing that when the oil bo= om was in full swing and things were getting built as fast as possible.

 

K= athye

 

From: Roger Grimes <rgrimes@aicenergycorp.c= om>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:51 AM
To: Kat= hleen Spilman <kspilman@keitu.com>
Cc: 'Kris Keller, P.E.' = <kkeller@keitu.com>; jwilson@aicenergycorp.com
Subject: RE:= PE License ?

 

Kathye:

 

I think I will just apply for my ND l= icense by comity so I can be the overarching design professional for constr= uction permit submittals.  I will check with Williams County to make s= ure they are OK with that=E2=80=A6

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From: Kathleen Spilman
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:33 AM
To: Roger Grimes @AIC
Cc: 'Kris Keller, P.E.'
Subject: PE License ?

 

I received our professional E&O insurance policy yesterday and it = reminds me about the provision about working only with licensed professiona= ls.

 

Are you working as a AIC Energy Corp employee, or technically are you= a contractor?  If you are actually a AIC Energy Corp employee, then o= f course North Dakota offers an =E2=80=9Cindustry=E2=80=9D exemption for en= gineers i.e. only working for their employers.

 

While Richard Design Servi= ces is licensed in North Dakota, we can=E2=80=99t see that Haldor-Topsoe is= , nor Alfa-Laval.  Since they are doing some of the design work relati= ng to their equipment, and not just selling us equipment, they really shoul= d be.  I am way more concerned about HT and AL than you.

 

Kathleen M. Spilman, P= .E.=

Project Engineer =E2=80=93 SAFuels X (Trenton)

1403 27th St NW

PO Box 98

Man= dan ND 58554

(701) 667-1800 

(= 701) 667-1808 x100 Direc= t

(701) 527-0277 Mobile

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